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Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by cottmiler on Wed May 31, 2017 10:09 am

Having admired Natalie for some time here we need to get back down to business and try and achieve some tiny little bit of her skill.

One of the short snappy videos that I have used so much that the quality has deteriorated (!) is this from Dave Scott:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUULNJEdKU8

In particular I now understand what he means by Drill No. 2 where he describes getting a "Quick Catch".

It occurs in coordination with the other hand when the pull is happening. It is a great feeling and seems to lessen the load on each pulling action since the whole stroke is better timed and gliding is eliminated.

Any feedback from readers would be appreciated.





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Re: Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by SA on Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:39 am

I hardly ever see an overglider in the pool. Most people do a lot and still go slow.
For them this is a stupid oversimplified advice.

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Re: Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by s.sciame on Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:39 pm

cottmiler wrote:

One of the short snappy videos that I have used so much that the quality has deteriorated (!) is this from Dave Scott:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUULNJEdKU8

In particular I now understand what he means by Drill No. 2 where he describes getting a "Quick Catch".

It occurs in coordination with  the other hand when the pull is happening.  It is a great feeling and seems to lessen the load on each pulling action since the whole stroke is better timed and gliding is eliminated.

Any feedback from readers would be appreciated.


Same feedback, it seems to lessen the load on each pulling action. I started focusing on this quick catch motion in the middle of a usrpt set yesterday and the light feeling on front was a pleasure. I could complete 40x50m on 60s at steady 40s without failures. It felt like moving from a car with front wheel traction to a car with rear wheel traction.

I don't think it's much about curing overgliding though. I believe it's more about avoiding to start pulling before the forearm has reached an adequate position.

By the way I also like to practice the 3rd drill while recoverying from a usrpt set.

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Re: Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by cottmiler on Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:09 am

I was doing 1800 m of a new drill that I have invented this morning which combines various manoeuvres and one thing that popped up was getting the catch at exactly the correct instant.

Background: here is the "pencil drill" which was the starting point for my new drill*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeOdpBFATc

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During the changeover from right arm pull to left arm pull, you need to feel that as the left hand thrusts the body forward, the right hand tilts down to catch the water, which is actually felt on the fingertips.

When I did Dave Scott's quick catch, I was feeling for the catch like sculling. Now I realise that the pushing hand pushes the front hand into the catch.

It's not like crawling on sand; it's a dynamic action.

This is where smootharnie's "throwing the arm forward" makes sense, except that it isn't happening above water, it happens below!



* patent applied for

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Re: Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by nightcrawler on Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:11 pm

cottmiler wrote:I was doing 1800 m of a new drill that I have invented this morning which combines various manoeuvres and one thing that popped up was getting the catch at exactly the correct instant.

Background: here is the "pencil drill" which was the starting point for my new drill*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeOdpBFATc

-0-

During the changeover from right arm pull to left arm pull,  you need to feel that as the left hand thrusts the body forward, the right hand tilts down to catch the water, which is actually felt on the fingertips.

When I did Dave Scott's quick catch, I was feeling for the catch like sculling.  Now I realise that the pushing hand pushes the front hand into the catch.

It's not like crawling on sand; it's a dynamic action.

This is where smootharnie's "throwing the arm forward" makes sense, except that it isn't happening above water, it happens below!

* patent applied for

The guy in the video cant do the pencil drill well enough, his head is lifted almost above the water, his elbows broken, arms and legs are not straight enough so that he is trembling and scrambling on the water instead of floating and flowing.
Watch my video in order to see the proper pencil drill:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi7ZXb8lsH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZK2ChUZyfo

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Re: Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by cottmiler on Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:23 pm

You are so funny!

The videos don't play. Are they set private or something?

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Re: Dave Scott's Quick Catch

Post by nightcrawler on Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:01 pm

try again please

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